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Re: Hornady 55gr SP on deer? BigNate#1945715805/16/24 | |
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 Seafire Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,928 Likes: 13 | Originally Posted by BigNate For me the Barnes have a narrow wound channel (tsx) but the ttsx may be better. They need velocity to work well. Out of my .22-250 I've dropped a couple WT does with the 45gr tsx. Placement and velocity is what makes the copper ones work. Interesting this bullet was brought up... I had a box of two of this bullet, 45 grainer. They had the blue coating on them. They were going to 'hunt' off the front porch at Grandpa's house. The scout was in a wheelchair ( para pelagic ) and his sister was handicapped also. The rifle was a single shot H&R break open, with some cheap 3 x 9 Walmart scope on top. They weren't looking to kill a monster, just letting the grandson, and of course the daughter wanted to get in on it, with her own deer ( doe ). Even the fincky Potlandia liberals allow a handicapped kid to take a deer of either sex. For the boy, who was 11 or 12, we used a charge of 12/12.5 grains of Blue Dot. Toned it down to 10 grains for the little sister. 50 to 75 yards, but took a deer cleanly, not run offs only bang flop. Shot right behind the shoulder. Duplicated the same thing for both kids the following season... After that, they evidently left Boy Scouts, or Grandpa passed. The mother worked at the hospital as a Nurse's aid or something of that sort. But for two seasons, it made a very happy handicapped wheelchair bound kid and his little sister both very happy, right along with a proud grandpa. My minor payback was just being able to be involved in that, and making it all happen. It was fulfilling just giving some happiness to a young man, his sister and grandpa... and the 45 grain Barnes, did its job, with no muss or fuss... "Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC “Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez |
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Re: Hornady 55gr SP on deer? slip_sinker#1945719705/16/24 | |
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StarchedCover Campfire Regular S Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,441 Likes: 2 | The short answer is yes. I used the 55 Gr. Hornady Spire Point w/ Cannelure out of my 220 Swift, 223 Rem. and 222 Rem. to thin out the deer on family property (we had a depredation permit from SC DNR) in the Low Country of SC. My cousin used them out of his 22-250 and 223 Rem. with no issues. Over two years we killed almost 150 deer and probably 30 pigs over 1700 acres of corn and soybeans (and my grandparents garden) at ranges out to 350 yards with my Swift and the 22-250, nothing went more than 10 yards. Shot placement matters. StarchedCover Semper Fi |
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Re: Hornady 55gr SP on deer? slip_sinker#1945727805/16/24 | |
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WyoCoyoteHunter Campfire Ranger W Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 17,813 Likes: 3 | Things must be slow again, the stupid questions are being asked over and over again. Molon Labe |
Re: Hornady 55gr SP on deer? WyoCoyoteHunter#1945766005/16/24 | |
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10gaugemag Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 18,970 Likes: 5 | Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter Things must be slow again, the stupid questions are being asked over and over again. 6 year old thread. The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days! |
Re: Hornady 55gr SP on deer? slip_sinker#1945821605/16/24 | |
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BigNate Campfire Regular B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,312 | Slow learning? Just kidding, I'd rather answer honest questions for noobs than argue with someone who doesn't want to learn anything new. “You never need fear a man, no matter what his size. When danger threatens, call on me, and I will equalize.” �Common sense is genius dressed up in work clothes.� - Ralph Waldo Emerson |
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Re: Hornady 55gr SP on deer? BigNate#1945857205/16/24 | |
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 Deere_Man Campfire Member D Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 324 | Originally Posted by BigNate Slow learning? Just kidding, I'd rather answer honest questions for noobs than argue with someone who doesn't want to learn anything new. Thank you. I’ve never shot a deer with a 223 and I have one with 1:12 twist, so this old thread has been very informative. I’m not new to deer hunting, and I’m not new to the 223, just new to deer hunting with a 223. |
Re: Hornady 55gr SP on deer? WyoCoyoteHunter#1946228805/18/24 | |
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GeoW Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 17,292 Likes: 4 | Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter Don't people have something more to do than ask these stupid questions day after day??????? Yes, many ask even more stupid questions such as this one. "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." GeoW, The "Unwoke" ...Let's go Brandon! "A Well Regulated Militia" Life Member |
Re: Hornady 55gr SP on deer? slip_sinker#1946303905/18/24 | |
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Bugger Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2014 Posts: 10,505 Likes: 14 | White tail, Mule Deer. Coues, Sitka, Black Tail?? The smallest buck I've shot was a white tail in Missouri 4 points on a side. The largest was a whitetail or maybe a Mule Deer out west?? We shot a white tail that was evidently eating out of the feed bunks. After cleaning it and cutting off that neck and head. Dad, my younger brother, and I pulled him up using a pulley mounted on the ceiling of out barn. Dad asked us to get something. When my brother and I let go, dad went into the air and the deer came crashing down. Dad weighed 230 lb. That was a big white tail. I always wonder when someone says deer, just what size deer and what cartridge/bullet etc. are they talking about. A big mule deer buck or in this case that whitetail can be more than twice the size of that small Missouri white tail. When hunting hogs in south Texas I saw a few Coues deer I've seen Coues in AZ also - they are small deer in comparison. I shot a whitetail doe with a 22-250 and 55 grain bullets - I shot it between the eyes. Doesn't prove that the 22-250 with a 55 grain bullet is right for "deer". I prefer classic. |
Re: Hornady 55gr SP on deer? Deere_Man#19465778Yesterday at 08:49 PM | |
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BigNate Campfire Regular B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,312 | Originally Posted by Deere_Man Thank you. I’ve never shot a deer with a 223 and I have one with 1:12 twist, so this old thread has been very informative. I’m not new to deer hunting, and I’m not new to the 223, just new to deer hunting with a 223. Better than the 55gr Hornady, I've had good success with 64gr. Winchester PP or Nosler 64gr BSB. Both still work out of 1:12. You may also find the Speer 70gr semi-pointed or semi-spitser don't remember what they called them, but they are also blunt nosed. Your elevation may effect your success with these. “You never need fear a man, no matter what his size. When danger threatens, call on me, and I will equalize.” �Common sense is genius dressed up in work clothes.� - Ralph Waldo Emerson |
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Re: Hornady 55gr SP on deer? slip_sinker#1946638410 hours ago | |
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pete53 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 8,346 Likes: 2 | i have shot deer in the past with these smaller bullets, including a nice doe with my 22 K-Hornet in neck DRT ,one huge buck with a 55 gr. s.p. thru both lungs 2 holes one in / one out i did have to track this buck about 150 yards in the snow plenty blood. this past deer season 2023 grandson used a 257 Roberts with a Hammer 75 gr. bullet shot a doe thru lungs went about 30 feet and fell over dead , son`s sweetheart shot a big doe at 100 yards that dressed 141 lbs. with my 220 Swift 60 GR. Nosler Partition ,doe went 70 yards and piled up , bullet enter rib cage behind shoulder and out the center of the opposite shoulder and bullet kept on going. > maybe for many a smaller cartridge would be better ? these smaller cartridges have little recoil ,are very accurate and are by far more fun to practice with . i use a 257 Weatherby mag. with a 100 gr. bullet and have killed some very big bucks , i don`t understand why so many feel they need a heavier grained slower bullet ? speed kills better with a well placed bullet , less recoil and better accuracy helps the young ,ladies and recoil shy shooters much more . LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman |
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